Dien Bien Phu, the final gamble

Legion wargames will eventually publish a game for Dien Bien Phu. The playtest map (as it is now) can be seen here: www . kangerproject.com/DienBienPhu/

I wish to make DBP a fast playing tournament game. I will introduce a make or break system. The Viet Minh places a regiment order marker on a French strongpoint. That regiment is now ordered to continue its assault until that strongpoint is reached and conquered. While reaching it, the regiment will suffer two consequences of its assault as well as battle results (in addition to losses). The consequences are fatigue and distress. The assault will continue with movement and fighting until the order marker is reached or the units reatreat - make or break.

After each movement and assault a unit gets increasingly tired until it gets exhausted (two sides of a marker). The more tired it gets the lower its effectiveness is. After each fighting, results of distress may accumulate. First is gets disrupted and then eventually shaken (again, two sides of a marker). So a unit that starts fresh will eventually end up both exhausted and shaken, but still able to fight though.

Along the way it might also get a battle result as surpressed, which will stop an assault. A regiment can continue until the steam blows off and hopefully it will have reached its objective before its battalions receive retreat results, perhaps due to their increasingly poor status.

The trick is to know how far in among the French the Viet Minh should place the order markers. To far in the units might not be able to reach it and take unnecessary losses in the process of their struggle to get there. Also, failure is not good for morale. Not far in enough, the gains might not be that impressive and, who knows, maybe you could have taken that extra strongpoint also. And, of course, success is good for morale.

Lignes devient un forum international On avait déjà le nord de l'Europe avec Bir et Fred, voilà que c'est le monde anglo-saxon qui vient nous faire partager son expérience. Bienvenue et beau projet !

Welcome Kim

Dien Bien Phu seems to be a popular subject... at least three differents wargames are currently on the stages ! Your system seems to use interesting "soft" concepts.

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Lignes devient un forum international On avait déjà le nord de l'Europe avec Bir et Fred, voilà que c'est le monde anglo-saxon qui vient nous faire partager son expérience. Bienvenue et beau projet !

Plutôt la Suède... Mais bon, ça relève le niveau parce que le sud de l'Europe, c'est vraiment plus ce que c'était par rapport au temps de Carthage et surtout de Rome...

Hello everyone, I'm everywhere, as you see.

I guess I'm the only Swede here. But then again, there should be at least one representative from a country with a good economy, no?

Kim Kanger a écrit:

Hello everyone, I'm everywhere, as you see.

I guess I'm the only Swede here. But then again, there should be at least one representative from a country with a good economy, no?

J'ai trouvé le surnom de Kim, Krisprolls !!!! C'est Bir le Libyen qui jouera Hinkmar !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW1naJf5Ilw

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J'ai trouvé le surnom de Kim, Krisprolls !!!! C'est Bir le Libyen qui jouera Hinkmar !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW1naJf5Ilw

Kim, excuse ce pitre.... On ne peut rien attendre d'un indien mâtiné de zoulou (et puniqué avec ça) qui vit dans un trou perdu dans le sud de la France...

Work is proceeding. This game will not be burdened by a lot of complex rules. This will be a tournament game and have one single rule: Assault!

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This game will not be burdened by a lot of complex rule

A Swedish design without cream ?

Oh, there will be cream enough, but I wont bother with a lot of unnecessary rules.

www . legionwargames.com/legion_dien_bien_phu.html

At such a scale, won't Isabelle make the map too long ?

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At such a scale, won't Isabelle make the map too long ?

Good point !
It's why Isabelle will not be on the main map.

Hi Kim, what sort of soft did you use for the map, especially for the entrenchments ?

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It's why Isabelle will not be on the main map

That's it...

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Hi Kim, what sort of soft did you use for the map, especially for the entrenchments ?

Photoshop

What are the areas surrounded by barbed wires but containing no entrenchements ( I mean the two hexes south of the river bank ) ? Movement hindrances ?

The greenish hexes are wet flatlands. The yellowish hexes are a bit drier flatlands. You had wire all over the place, not only surrounding the strongpoints.

As you can see, the picture is stylized into fewer and clearer colour fields at 600 dpi. This should work well when printed. I also wanted to make the icon almost physical with its big and dramatic picture. Perfect for companies clinging onto a hill at DBP.

Kim Kanger a écrit:

As you can see, the picture is stylized into fewer and clearer colour fields at 600 dpi. This should work well when printed. I also wanted to make the icon almost physical with its big and dramatic picture. Perfect for companies clinging onto a hill at DBP.

De l'idée,là en effet ! Good !

I sometimes use this effect, vectorisation with fewer colours, it fits well to small counters. I like your picture and its effect, but I would work on the counter's layout ( light effect on the right hand corner, placement of the <7> in a way it doesn't touch the image's edges for instance ). Maybe an inner border ?

It's now adjusted.

Won't this one look too blurry, even at small size ?

Is it possible to have a glance at the rules ?